Watch Meryl Streep, Jon Stewart, Ava DuVernay, and Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy talk women in film at Women in the World. Check out the summary below and then watch this fascinating and enlightening discussion.
"When a woman makes a film, that is a radical act," director and screenwriter Ava DuVernay said at the Women in the World Summit in New York City recentl. By that definition-and by any other, really-she and the other two women on stage, Pakistani documentary filmmaker Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy and prolific actress Meryl Streep, are all radicals.
All three women not only make their presence strongly felt in the male-dominated film industry, but tackle women's issues and promote activism in their work-whether through portraying brave women so powerfully that even men can't help but empathize, or exposing women's struggles by documenting or dramatizing them.
In Streep's latest film, Suffragette-a British historical drama that will be released in the U.S. in October-she plays Emmeline Pankhurst, who led British women in their fight for the vote a hundred years ago. If a movie about voting rights sounds dull to you, you're probably American: The British women's movement "was different from the one in the U.S., which was very polite," Streep said. "In England, it was violent." After their attempts to petition Parliament failed, the British suffragettes took a creative approach: blowing up the politicians' golf courses. But it was "about wrecking property, not hurting people," she said.
The issue of women's voting "is personal to me," Streep said. "My grandmother had three children and still couldn't vote. Not in the school board election, let alone for president."
DuVernay, who became the first African-American woman nominated for a Best Picture Oscar with Selma, her biopic about Martin Luther King, spoke about how different portraits of activism complement each other.
"This idea of the political as personal has a vibrancy now," she said. "You can see the interconnections. My hope is that people of color who are involved in the Black Lives Matter movement might see Suffragette and get ideas."
Obaid-Chinoy, who won an Oscar in 2012 for her documentary about acid attacks on women in Pakistan, tends to focus on exposing injustice in her home country. But her films also highlight inspiring women. One of her recent projects, 'Ho Yaqeen: Syeda Fatima,' follows a female activist fighting for the rights of bonded laborers in her village in Punjab. In a clip shown to the audience, a woman boldly confronts a man who beats his workers. She refuses to leave or back down as he tries to send her away, denies using violence and then defends it as his right.
"Very often, we see women in my part of the world as victims," she said. "I hope by putting my camera out there, I am creating heroes in my part of the world for the next generation. I need my daughters to have heroes in Pakistan."
She knows from first-hand experience how important it is to see women on screen-and how just one female role model can change the course of someone's life. She spoke of watching CNN as a child, "on a grainy television," and seeing Christiane Amanpour "reporting among all the men, standing on the front lines" of the first Gulf War.
"I said to myself, if she could do it, then anyone from this part of the world could do it," she said.
Obaid-Chinoy spoke poignantly about the psychological toll incurred by telling the heavy stories she takes on. "You have to live and breathe that reality with those people you are filming, often for years," she said. "Their reality becomes your reality. Their nightmares become your nightmares. You have to deal with your own demons when that film is done."
Daily Show host Jon Stewart, who moderated the panel, pointed to a common thread in all three films: "The men are assholes," he said, to the amusement of the women onstage as well as the audience.
But Obaid-Chinoy doesn't mind hurting men's feelings. "I like to make men uncomfortable," she said. She sees discomfort as the best impetus for change. "It's only when you're uncomfortable that you will perhaps look at yourself in the mirror and not like your reflection and think, maybe there is something wrong with the way I think."